Comments on: Making Healthcare Work, Documenting the Undocumented, and The Mortgage Meltdown http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:29:19 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Aquifer http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-401 Aquifer Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:22:10 +0000 http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/#comment-401 <p>Excellent show!</p> <p> Let’s see, we have America’s mayors, America’s physicians, and America’s just plain folk on board for single payer (HR 676) not to mention NY’s (?any other states’) Assembly. Now all we need are candidates for Congress and the Pres. that will support it. And they are out there! At the Pres. level, Nader and McKinney support it. At the Congress. level, I know of a person running for the NY 25 seat who does, surely there are candidates in other CDs who do as well. </p> <p>Ms. Flanders, after that great presentation, the only thing lacking in your health care piece was the connecting link between the local/state NEED for single payer and the enactment of the enabling Fed.l legislation stalled in the pipeline. That link could be made in the next election by putting in office people who support it. Would you have those people or their spokespersons on your show so we could connect ALL the dots? We could actually GET there! Will you help?</p> Excellent show!

Let’s see, we have America’s mayors, America’s physicians, and America’s just plain folk on board for single payer (HR 676) not to mention NY’s (?any other states’) Assembly. Now all we need are candidates for Congress and the Pres. that will support it. And they are out there! At the Pres. level, Nader and McKinney support it. At the Congress. level, I know of a person running for the NY 25 seat who does, surely there are candidates in other CDs who do as well.

Ms. Flanders, after that great presentation, the only thing lacking in your health care piece was the connecting link between the local/state NEED for single payer and the enactment of the enabling Fed.l legislation stalled in the pipeline. That link could be made in the next election by putting in office people who support it. Would you have those people or their spokespersons on your show so we could connect ALL the dots? We could actually GET there! Will you help?

]]> By: Nettle http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-394 Nettle Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:20:15 +0000 http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/#comment-394 <p>I love the chickens. Wallace and Gromit, too, and Chicken Run.</p> I love the chickens. Wallace and Gromit, too, and Chicken Run.

]]> By: egregious http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-393 egregious Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:42:56 +0000 http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/#comment-393 <p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/the-hidden-army-hezbollah-teaches-the-world-how-to-fight/" rel="nofollow">New Ian</a></p> New Ian

]]> By: neurophius http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-392 neurophius Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:20:59 +0000 http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/#comment-392 <p>thanks, egregius. I forgot to mention it in the comments.</p> thanks, egregius. I forgot to mention it in the comments.

]]> By: egregious http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-391 egregious Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:12:03 +0000 http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/#comment-391 <p><a href="http://digg.com/political_opinion/Making_Healthcare_Work_Documenting_the_Undocumented_and_Th" rel="nofollow">Digg this post</a></p> Digg this post

]]> By: pmorlan http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-390 pmorlan Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:11:35 +0000 http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/#comment-390 <p>off topic:</p> <p>If you haven’t done so already I hope you will post a comment about Obama & FISA and how the media is covering this story on the NYT blog.</p> <p>Obama Backlash in His Online Backyard<br /> By Noam Cohen</p> <p><a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes…..d/#respond" rel="nofollow">http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes…..d/#respond</a></p> off topic:

If you haven’t done so already I hope you will post a comment about Obama & FISA and how the media is covering this story on the NYT blog.

Obama Backlash in His Online Backyard
By Noam Cohen

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes…..d/#respond

]]> By: perris http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-389 perris Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:06:40 +0000 http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/#comment-389 <p>I would like to see employers responsible for the health care of their labor force, they have to pay to maintain their equiptment and all their assets, they need to pay the bill for maintaining the health of their laborers</p> <p>then I would like to see an additional tax levied against both the employers and the laborers that would cover those unemployed and those without parents or family to provide said health care</p> <p>this to me is a no lose proposition, it’s even no lose for the corporations since they would be able to pay their labor force less by providing health care, and since they would be buying the health caer at reduced rate, they could (and would) be able to offer jobs at a more reduced rate then the health care costs.</p> <p>win win</p> <p>we need to start considering the health of labor as one of the costs employers have to face in order to stay in business, and as I said, this should actually cost less then if they didn’t provide that health care</p> I would like to see employers responsible for the health care of their labor force, they have to pay to maintain their equiptment and all their assets, they need to pay the bill for maintaining the health of their laborers

then I would like to see an additional tax levied against both the employers and the laborers that would cover those unemployed and those without parents or family to provide said health care

this to me is a no lose proposition, it’s even no lose for the corporations since they would be able to pay their labor force less by providing health care, and since they would be buying the health caer at reduced rate, they could (and would) be able to offer jobs at a more reduced rate then the health care costs.

win win

we need to start considering the health of labor as one of the costs employers have to face in order to stay in business, and as I said, this should actually cost less then if they didn’t provide that health care

]]> By: wangdangdoodle http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-388 wangdangdoodle Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:50:23 +0000 http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/#comment-388 <p>It does seem to be all in framing, or how the poll questions are worded.</p> <p>I would really like to see some figures comparing what we pay in health care premiums now v. what we would pay in taxes for universal payer. I suspect it would be less in taxes, just BECAUSE i can’t find any figures.</p> It does seem to be all in framing, or how the poll questions are worded.

I would really like to see some figures comparing what we pay in health care premiums now v. what we would pay in taxes for universal payer. I suspect it would be less in taxes, just BECAUSE i can’t find any figures.

]]> By: Ian Welsh http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-387 Ian Welsh Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:13:41 +0000 http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2008/07/02/making-healthcare-work-documenting-the-undocumented-and-the-mortgage-meltdown/#comment-387 <p>Yeah, a fair number of polls are now showing majority support for universal health care, depending how you word the questions. That number will keep going up. It’s why it is so disappointing that many national politicians are so unwilling to seriously tackle the issue.</p> Yeah, a fair number of polls are now showing majority support for universal health care, depending how you word the questions. That number will keep going up. It’s why it is so disappointing that many national politicians are so unwilling to seriously tackle the issue.

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